ok this ones about amds

amd 64
some 939 pins and some 754

sempron
all socket a and the 3100 or 3200 is socket 754

this is where i am lost
what else is there?
athlon xp+
athlon
athlong xp-m

athlon xp+
athlon
athlong xp-m

Socket A

ok and the athlon xp-m are the best for over clocking?

Well cuz the is for mobile, they were designed to not use up as much juice as a desktop.
But putting it in a desktop, you then can feed it that desktop amount of juice, and now it overclocks up.
NOds, supposedly 2500 mobile xp is the ideal choice.
HDZ knows all about this one

ok hdz when you read this (or anyoen else i should say)

how does having more voltage increase speed/performance/overclocking ability?

thanks

the mobiles use LESS voltage, thus they produce less heat. A lot of the of the headroom problems on overclocking is due to the fact, that theres just too much voltage/heat being used on processors, that you cant drive them up any higher. The mobiles are also multiplier unlocked, while all recent (past year) RETAIL Athlon XP's are locked. Thus, unlocked multiplier, lower voltage, thus cooler, allows for a much higher overclock compared to desktop cpu's.

Mobiles are OEM only (7-30day warranties only (depending on your distributer)). 2400, 2500 or 2600 mobiles all do good (note: there are 2 types of mobile 2600's.. one of them is lower voltage then the other mobile 2600's, thus are better overclockers).

Due to being OEM's they also do not come with a Heatsink/fan.

AMD's current flagship is the 939 Athlon 64's.

I always thought from a company end that over clocking would be silly, example

1800+ = 1.53 ghz over clocking it to 1.67ghz = athlon xp 2000+ surley AMD would want you to go and buy the 2000+ rather than clock upto that thus them lossing money

is the 939 pin amd 64 unlocked or not? what about thee 754 pin amd 64?

the 939 cores are only unlocked if they are "FX" -- all regular 939's are only unlocked "downwards". FX models are unlocked up and down.

that sorta sucks =/