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#158960 - 11/16/08 02:21 PM
In over my head? help!
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911, do you need police, fire, or ambulance?
Registered: 01/13/02
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Loc: Canada
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I've been given the task at work of updating our crappy html-only website to have more up to date information, and also to keep 'news releases' up to date. The person responsible for making news-releases is computer fucktarded, so I want to make a web-interface for them to upload 'title, body, date and time' which will then be translated to a (css?) formatted webpage.
I have access via ftp to our hosted webspace - it has a pile of directories I'm no longer familiar with, so its capable of all sorts of scripting. My thought is to have the person responsible for the releases use a created (secure) blog account (google blogger?) and then have our main page rss the news stories titles and content into the main webspace. This would alleviate having to secure our actual website - I wouldnt need to create a local login system for idiot to update the stories.
Any thoughts?
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#158963 - 11/16/08 03:56 PM
Re: In over my head? help!
[Re: Frollard]
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ghast hacker
Registered: 06/10/01
Posts: 18833
Loc: $$
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another option is to use a embeded flash menu that reads from a text file, and upload it, or create a dhtml or php page that reads from a text file.
you know what I go through with why bring that pain on yourself by letting them edit html. I've seen clients screw up a whole site then play stupid .
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#158966 - 11/16/08 05:19 PM
Re: In over my head? help!
[Re: HarryB]
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911, do you need police, fire, or ambulance?
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Exactly why I want them nowhere near anything that edits the structure of the site - just the content. Some way, even if a robot would parse an email inbox so they could submit it that way, and not even have to log into a blog or somewhere...
Anything but me manually updating an html page.
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#158967 - 11/16/08 07:21 PM
Re: In over my head? help!
[Re: Frollard]
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ghast hacker
Registered: 06/07/01
Posts: 11436
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what about drupal?
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#158968 - 11/16/08 08:00 PM
Re: In over my head? help!
[Re: Compactman]
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King of the Ewoks
Registered: 06/10/01
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Loc: New York City
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you know there was a stupidly simple jury-rigged solution i made once...
i'm not going to call this a 'proper' solution, but the situation called for something that just worked, so heres what i did.
made an access database, simple stuff, like name, title, description and so on.
people would use this db to edit and add and mark "don't post", for [whatever] data.
then build reports that were structured as html pages. in the header you had the <html><title><head><body> and table setup tags.
in the report body, you had the body code <tr><td>[record data], and so on.
in the report footer you had the table and html closing tags.
every night at some specific time, the database would generate the reports as 'filtered html files', can't be just html files cuz then you get all the useless MS office tags in there.
then run a scheduled batch script to copy n replace the existing html files on the web server.
and voila... pseudo-auto-updating.
like i said, jury-rigged, not proper, but it worked.
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#158970 - 11/16/08 08:13 PM
Re: In over my head? help!
[Re: WeerDo]
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Registered: 06/10/01
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ahh, that's an idea, you could upload an access db or excel spreadsheet and pull data from the file by odbc or dsn or dsnless connection.
there was something I did many moons ago that pulled data from an access db
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#158980 - 11/17/08 07:35 AM
Re: In over my head? help!
[Re: WeerDo]
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911, do you need police, fire, or ambulance?
Registered: 01/13/02
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Loc: Canada
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Thanks for the quick responses...
I don't even want <her> to have access to a database. I'm thinking a web-submit form is pushing it for stupid-end-user ability.
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#158983 - 11/17/08 01:01 PM
Re: In over my head? help!
[Re: Frollard]
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ghast hacker
Registered: 06/10/01
Posts: 18833
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In a world where the blind leads the blind, who do you follow? the women with the big butts and breast. 
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#158991 - 11/18/08 09:00 AM
Re: In over my head? help!
[Re: Frollard]
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King of the Ewoks
Registered: 06/10/01
Posts: 3921
Loc: New York City
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I don't even want <her> to have access to a database. I'm thinking a web-submit form is pushing it for stupid-end-user ability. jeezus... what kinda stupid are you dealing with over there??
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#158997 - 11/18/08 11:05 AM
Re: In over my head? help!
[Re: WeerDo]
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ghast hacker
Registered: 06/10/01
Posts: 18833
Loc: $$
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jeezus... what kinda stupid are you dealing with over there?? there's a whole new breed of idiots and asshats.*LOL* where they come from?? I don't know. who's breeding them? I don't know. how do they manage not to accidentally kill themselves? I don't know. all I do know is they need to be stopped.*L*
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#159030 - 11/20/08 06:37 AM
Re: In over my head? help!
[Re: WeerDo]
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ghast hacker
Registered: 06/10/01
Posts: 18833
Loc: $$
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*LOL*
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#159179 - 11/28/08 11:12 PM
Re: In over my head? help!
[Re: WeerDo]
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911, do you need police, fire, or ambulance?
Registered: 01/13/02
Posts: 4948
Loc: Canada
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I don't even want <her> to have access to a database. I'm thinking a web-submit form is pushing it for stupid-end-user ability. jeezus... what kinda stupid are you dealing with over there?? Words cannot describe how stupid these people are. I'm not talking 'cant turn the monitor on' stupid; its...'why is the looky thing black?' - I wiggled the thing, and its still black. "The internet doesnt work - well I unplugged that thing (the modem) and moved it to the laundry room - did I need that? I'm tempted to grab the wiki-system so its editable with version history.
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#159180 - 11/28/08 11:53 PM
Re: In over my head? help!
[Re: Frollard]
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Registered: 06/10/01
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here's one.
I'm coming out of my turkey coma yesterday and I hear my wife's cousin and uncle trying to fix their pc. so I crack my eye and I see them starting to turn to look at me. So I closed my eyes shut thinking they'll think I'm sleep and leave me the fuck alone.
Well I thought wrong, her pesky cousin comes over and nudges me, I'm thinking to myself "If I hit him not only will he lave me alone but I'll never be invited to another of her family thanksgivings".
Ok, can't hit him, I'm outnumbered.*LOL*
so I fake waking up cause I was already up faking sleeping. he goes, something is wrong with my pc, can I look at it.
so I walk over, look at it and go It's fucked up.
h goes can you fix it?
I go I don't have any tools or software.
he goes I got that stuff,
I go well why don't you fix it?
he goes I don't know how.
I go let me see wbhat software you have.
this motherfucker pulled out an AOL 8.0 cd, a modem drivers cd, and a cd of office, not the actual office cd, a cd he made by burning program files\microsoft office directory.
I go, you got shit. I can't do nothing with these but throw them at your ass.
so I tell him I can take it back and fix it cause I don't work on holidays, and you can pick it up saturday.
he goes can I bring it back? I go hell no.
but that's nothing to today.*L*
a woman calls, I answer with the standard business greeting.
she goes are we open.
??????????????????????????????????????????????????
wanted to say No, I just like answering phones.
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#159792 - 12/25/08 09:09 AM
Re: In over my head? help!
[Re: Doorslammer]
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911, do you need police, fire, or ambulance?
Registered: 01/13/02
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Loc: Canada
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So its official - Blogger (by google) has the goods. I set blogger up with 'advanced mode', where it offers me the option to input an ftp server, and directory for the entire blog, entries, listings, and most importantly, rss feed... I made a 'press/' folder on the ftp, it drops that in a css formatted blog, on MY server (woot). I just use a javascript on the main page to run a ticker of the rss 
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#164120 - 04/05/09 06:50 AM
Re: In over my head? help!
[Re: Frollard]
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The Wanderer
Registered: 01/03/02
Posts: 1971
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Now hopefully she doesn't break it... As a quote over the desk at work states "Nothing is so foolproof that a fool can't break it" There's a lot of not so computer savy people out there, but on the other hand, there's a lot who simply haven't had the chance to learn. A friend of my parents (nice old lady, somewhere in her 70s, stereotypical know-nothing-tech-related oldy) finally decided she needed to get online to keep up with her research, got herself a comp, a scanner, and a digital camera, and over the course of the last three years or so has gone from the "which button turns it on" level up to the "photoshop grunt level" taking, scanning, and doing pretty good editing of digital photos for her collections and distributing them online. I think she may even have set up her own database of specimens and photos too. And when she has problems she even harasses the local tech support services with reasonably inteligent questions.  Unfortunatly she hasn't picked up most of the vocabulary that goes with such skills, being self-taught, so her questions are a bit different than the way we'd phrase them. Likewise has trouble with the answers, too, for like reason.
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