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#166999 - 06/19/09 10:10 AM avi to play on web page
Doorslammer Offline

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well I was making a little page with my son playing guitar to share with my family up north
but damn it if I can get this bitch to work

I used embed object
then I was looking to convert it to flash & make it easy on every one now thats turned in to a job from help
maybe my brain cells are mis firing today
but I need help LOL



Html:
<object classid="clsid:22D6F312-B0F6-11D0-94AB-0080C74C7E95">
<param name="FileName" value="HPIM1311.avi" />
  <param name="AudioStream" value="-1">
  <param name="AutoSize" value="-1">
  <param name="AutoStart" value="0">
  <param name="AnimationAtStart" value="-1">
  <param name="AllowScan" value="-1">
  <param name="AllowChangeDisplaySize" value="-1">

  <param name="AutoRewind" value="0">
  <param name="Balance" value="0">
  <param name="BaseURL" value>
  <param name="BufferingTime" value="5">
  <param name="CaptioningID" value>
  <param name="ClickToPlay" value="-1">
  <param name="CursorType" value="0">
  <param name="CurrentPosition" value="-1">
  <param name="CurrentMarker" value="0">

  <param name="DefaultFrame" value>
  <param name="DisplayBackColor" value="0">
  <param name="DisplayForeColor" value="16777215">
  <param name="DisplayMode" value="0">
  <param name="DisplaySize" value="0">
  <param name="Enabled" value="-1">
  <param name="EnableContextMenu" value="-1">
  <param name="EnablePositionControls" value="-1">
  <param name="EnableFullScreenControls" value="0">

  <param name="EnableTracker" value="-1">
  <param name="InvokeURLs" value="-1">
  <param name="Language" value="-1">
  <param name="Mute" value="0">
  <param name="PlayCount" value="1">
  <param name="PreviewMode" value="0">
  <param name="Rate" value="1">
  <param name="SAMILang" value>
  <param name="SAMIStyle" value>

  <param name="SAMIFileName" value>
  <param name="SelectionStart" value="-1">
  <param name="SelectionEnd" value="-1">
  <param name="SendOpenStateChangeEvents" value="-1">
  <param name="SendWarningEvents" value="-1">
  <param name="SendErrorEvents" value="-1">
  <param name="SendKeyboardEvents" value="0">
  <param name="SendMouseClickEvents" value="0">
  <param name="SendMouseMoveEvents" value="0">

  <param name="SendPlayStateChangeEvents" value="-1">
  <param name="ShowCaptioning" value="0">
  <param name="ShowControls" value="-1">
  <param name="ShowAudioControls" value="-1">
  <param name="ShowDisplay" value="0">
  <param name="ShowGotoBar" value="0">
  <param name="ShowPositionControls" value="-1">
  <param name="ShowStatusBar" value="0">
  <param name="ShowTracker" value="-1">

  <param name="TransparentAtStart" value="0">
  <param name="VideoBorderWidth" value="0">
  <param name="VideoBorderColor" value="0">
  <param name="VideoBorder3D" value="0">
  <param name="Volume" value="0">
  <param name="WindowlessVideo" value="0">
</object>

oh hell I know this code should work with window media player
thats why I was thinking of doing it in flash or something
I have an avi file
what a pain this has turned in to
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#167002 - 06/19/09 11:23 AM Re: avi to play on web page [Re: Doorslammer]
m2h Offline
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You want to use something that will do AVI to FLV.
FLV is the video and audio container for Shockwave/Flash.

Shockwave/Flash only support certain video and audio codecs.
So I highly recommend you use a conversion program.
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#167198 - 06/23/09 10:42 AM Re: avi to play on web page [Re: m2h]
Frollard Offline
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Easiest is to upload to youtube, almost any format works.

Then just make it 'private' if you dont want everyone and their dog watching - then you can share a specific url to up to 25 people.

Really if its named obscurely you dont have much to worry about privacy.
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#167221 - 06/23/09 03:15 PM Re: avi to play on web page [Re: Frollard]
Doorslammer Offline

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I used a program to make it swf
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#167243 - 06/24/09 03:38 AM Re: avi to play on web page [Re: Doorslammer]
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Soon we will hopefully have HTML 5 being supported by all new browsers, which uses the <VIDEO> tag for inline video files. After that, no youtube or flash required.
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#167245 - 06/24/09 05:43 AM Re: avi to play on web page [Re: Mr_Blog]
bitstorm Offline
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Originally Posted By: Mr_Blog
Soon we will hopefully have HTML 5 being supported by all new browsers, which uses the <VIDEO> tag for inline video files. After that, no youtube or flash required.


Can't wait for the mess of required codecs and people adding unoptimized portions of video when that happens.

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#167246 - 06/24/09 05:52 AM Re: avi to play on web page [Re: bitstorm]
Doorslammer Offline

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hehe the only reason I wanted to ad avi is my sister knows nothing about computers she can only email & search the web a little , so I sent her a link so she could download the videos
I wanted her to be able to view them online & then be able to keep a copy.
I did not even encode them with divx or xvid because that would require her to download a codec & well that means she would never see the video LOL

I got her to download them, then she wrote back & said she viewed the videos but does not know how to save them to her computer LOL good lord
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#167255 - 06/24/09 10:03 AM Re: avi to play on web page [Re: bitstorm]
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Fortunately the codecs issue won't be quite as bad as it has been in the past. The video tag allows the content provider to supply multiple formats in the same tag, and the browser will use the first one that is supported.

I've heard it said that the video tag was intended to stick to a free codec (ogg theora?) supplied with the browser, or at least encourage it....no idea if that holds any water.
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#167321 - 06/25/09 08:32 PM Re: avi to play on web page [Re: Mr_Blog]
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Yeah tested it out the new Open Video format with FF 3.5... I'm stoked!
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#167651 - 07/06/09 03:16 PM Re: avi to play on web page [Re: Mr_Blog]
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Originally Posted By: Mr_Blog
Soon we will hopefully have HTML 5 being supported by all new browsers, which uses the <VIDEO> tag for inline video files. After that, no youtube or flash required.


Looks like it isn't going to happen,

http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/07/decoding-the-html-5-video-codec-debate.ars

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#167673 - 07/06/09 06:59 PM Re: avi to play on web page [Re: bitstorm]
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This is nonsense, and Hickson is apparently a jackass. HTML is an open standard, and anything included should also be open. All discussion of perceived or real technical superiority aside, H.264 is not a free format. Therefore Ogg Theora wins. Duh.
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#167680 - 07/06/09 08:33 PM Re: avi to play on web page [Re: Mr_Blog]
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I do agree that it should be an open format. What I would want is "an open format with H.264 quality".

From a quality standpoint everything I've read indicates the Ogg Theora codec leaves a lot to be desired. If Google's concern is that it's of a lesser quality than their current videos on YouTube... well that's not saying much.

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#167689 - 07/07/09 05:32 AM Re: avi to play on web page [Re: bitstorm]
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I don't see why they just gave up on including something, though. We all know Microsoft isn't going to use anything but their own proprietary, patented formats...and according to this article may not even support the video element, which would mean a lot of servers won't support it. I think they should go with a free codec regardless of whether or not some won't use it, considering that's better than including nothing, which is just as bad as the plugin system we have now.
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#167787 - 07/08/09 10:18 PM Re: avi to play on web page [Re: Mr_Blog]
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The problem is that OGG has no support. The quality can always be improved and scaled to support higher quality video in the future. Everyone knows this and that argument is just a bunch of bullshit because they don't really want to say the truth.

The truth my friends is that when a format is not supported and used in wide distribution like this, it will break. OHhhh it will break. It will break websites, browsers and middle managers lives. Your grandmother will want to sue someone because it is broken for a brief few seconds of her life.

That's the problem

You can't point the finger at someone if OGG just breaks things. This is a scare tactic to try and force one of the bigs to build something that's freely distributed and built into the license that the guys at HTML 5 want to see. They want 3 things


1. Someone to blame when shit breaks. This is why you pay a mechanic, an IT person, and for rights to use things.
2. They want to see it open so it will be included in all browsers.
3. They want some way of adding DRM to scale for future micro purchases giving control to content creators.

Hickson doesn't know what he's talking about and this isn't the first occasion that he has gone on the record showing us that. He's an old hat in a new media world.
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#167794 - 07/09/09 04:17 AM Re: avi to play on web page [Re: Compactman]
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I don't see how current lack of support would cause it to break. I've never (knowingly) seen the quality of ogg used in video, but the ogg vorbis audio format is as solid as any other....and arguably better quality than mp3.
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#167836 - 07/09/09 12:14 PM Re: avi to play on web page [Re: Mr_Blog]
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I would definitely say Ogg Vorbis was a superior format to MP3, better sounds at lower bitrates, I also remember some kludges/eventual workarounds with frames/true gapless music where it just wasn't a problem with Vorbis.

What wasn't solid was hardware support, and it still isn't- just like Ogg Theora.

I'm not at all against widespread adoption - it's free, it shouldn't cost any extra for the licenses and I'm all for it. I'm happy to see FLAC being supported in several devices, it really is a nice format.

But I think the very first step towards gaining wide acceptance is to stop giving their accomplishments goofy ass names and something that can be easily remembered or, dare I say, marketable (if only by word of mouth).

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#167849 - 07/09/09 02:18 PM Re: avi to play on web page [Re: bitstorm]
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I find it funny that the thinking is ah we'll let anyone decide what video format they can use. Then the worry is about fragmentation in the market place. Hurmmm... we already have an HTML tag for that it is called <embed>

As for marketable names...

H.264 is a helluva harder to remember than Ogg

Now my biggest worder is why Xvid or Dvix isn't piping in saying we have support, we have market penitration, blah blah blah...
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#167862 - 07/09/09 04:52 PM Re: avi to play on web page [Re: m2h]
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I think divx and xvid are just containers for mpeg 2 aren't they?
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#167871 - 07/09/09 08:05 PM Re: avi to play on web page [Re: Compactman]
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divx is proprietary and kind of annoying. I vote ffmpeg/libavcodec. I've used ffmpeg exclusively for video encoding over the last several years, and have had none of the troubles in playback I've had with divx or xvid. The only trouble is the same as with ogg...lack of support from hardware manufacturers.
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#167964 - 07/11/09 08:25 PM Re: avi to play on web page [Re: Mr_Blog]
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So what if h.264 isn't an open format?

Why not just use plain-jane MP4-SP as the format? Please correct me if I'm wrong but MP4 open? I thought DivX, XviD, and h.264 were just custom proprietary versions of MP4 made for more specific purposes like better compression or faster encoding/decoding?

in dozens of various methods of encoding something to a basic mpeg-4 simple profile, I don't think I've ever seen a license for the format. Only for it's derivatives.

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#167965 - 07/11/09 08:31 PM Re: avi to play on web page [Re: PacxDragon]
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cman - avi and mkv are containers... mkv is good, and I believe AVI is openly usable. The problem is what codec the video inside the container is encoded with. AVI can contain many various formats, MKV can contain anything from raw video to just about any codec under the sun.

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