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#175577 - 07/24/10 07:48 PM New TV?
ValmonUni Offline
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So my sister (who's a real bitch) told me she wouldn't use the blu ray player i just bought her for her birthday so i decided to keep it. I need a new tv though since my old one has no hdmi inputs and hell... it's a bloody box.

i wanna spend between $300-400. Is this a decent tv? After some surfing i thought this was ok.
LG 32LD350 TV
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#175579 - 07/24/10 09:03 PM Re: New TV? [Re: ValmonUni]
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that tv is only 720 so you won't get the higher pic quality.
look at these. might be able to find them cheaper.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/ProScan-40-40LD45Q/13348087
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Element-ELDFT321/14321388
and from tiger direct
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/guidedSearch.asp?CatId=37&sel=Price;Price5,Detail;133_269_20733_14636,Detail;133_1092_29118_29118

yeah they'e 60hz but still not a bad price.
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#175582 - 07/24/10 10:04 PM Re: New TV? [Re: HarryB]
m2h Offline
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http://www.eoutletcanada.com/
They ship to US but nothing bigger than 32".
They are Samsung Outlet basically, everything is refurbs.
I can't say how good they are, but I do know I'll prolly pick up my next set from them.
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#175585 - 07/25/10 07:29 AM Re: New TV? [Re: ValmonUni]
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I was in best buy yesterday I seem a few 60hz 1080p 40in tvs for about 550.00 so guess 32in should be cheaper
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#175588 - 07/25/10 11:41 AM Re: New TV? [Re: Doorslammer]
ValmonUni Offline
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how does contrast ratio factor in... some of those tv's were 2000:1 or 3000:1 ratio where the lg is 50,000:1

is that important at all?
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#175603 - 07/25/10 08:45 PM Re: New TV? [Re: ValmonUni]
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Higher is better. Plasma has better contrast than lcd (because its not filtering backlight, its creating light in each pixel).

Apples and oranges. Anything with adaptive motion/colour/contrast is garbage.
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#175605 - 07/25/10 10:14 PM Re: New TV? [Re: ValmonUni]
HarryB Offline

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the higher the contrast, the beter the blacks.
an example, being able to seperate a person in a black suit standing in the shadow of a dark dark room.

but there's a limit on how much contrast a human eye can detect, so all these high numbers end up being a sales gimmick. I read this in avs forum and a fw home theater mags.
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#175611 - 07/26/10 07:18 AM Re: New TV? [Re: HarryB]
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Yeah, I wouldn't worry about contrast ratio. The advertised number is almost always higher than actual ratio. 120Hz is definitely better than 60Hz for LCDs, especially if you will be watching Blu-Ray.

$300-$400 is a tough price range for a 1080p TV (which is what you want to view Blu-Ray). Plus, a 7.1 A/V receiver is needed to get the full experience. A TV is a big purchase. It's something that should last you many years. It's wise to make an informed choice for a product that will serve you well.

Save up more money and then make a better purchase.
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#175619 - 07/26/10 01:58 PM Re: New TV? [Re: MacGyver]
HarryB Offline

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yeah, if you can wait a bit and save go that route. also receiver 7.1 and speakers polk.
I prefer the pioner elites. there's not much of a price gap between the top end pioneer and the bottom end elite.

speakers, I prefer polk either in-wall or satellites with a polk sub.
trust me, once you hook up some polks to a pioneer, it'l put some esoteric high end shit to shame.
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#175626 - 07/26/10 05:05 PM Re: New TV? [Re: HarryB]
m2h Offline
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What about the Hz rating for gaming? Espescially if you are hooking up to a PC? I read lower is better. Gets all confusing.

You want at least 1000:1 static ratio for decent black. Anything higher is usually dynamic. I understand Plasma has better color saturation than TFT. So does IPS.
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#175628 - 07/26/10 05:24 PM Re: New TV? [Re: m2h]
HarryB Offline

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the higher the Hz the better the refresh rate which should be good for gaming. unless your graphics card is crap.
I would still choose a plasma over a lcd.
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#175631 - 07/27/10 03:56 AM Re: New TV? [Re: HarryB]
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120Hz is the way to go (for LCD). They do have 240Hz (it's really 120Hz enhanced), but it doesn't seem much better (as of now). The high-end plasmas are 600Hz. I would get a Panasonic plasma (took over Pioneer's plasma tech). The G20 is the more affordable line. The VT25 is the high-end. The V20 is the middle man.

I agree with HB, the Pioneer Elite A/V receivers are real nice. The VSX-32 is a new 7.1 model that can be had for ~$800 USD. I'm a real fan of Cambridge Soundworks and Klipsch speakers. Polk is real nice also (have a Polk MOMO sub in my truck).
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#175655 - 07/30/10 06:39 PM Re: New TV? [Re: MacGyver]
ValmonUni Offline
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ok so i found this today

Vizio 37" 1080p 60hz refurbished $399

Good buy or don't go with refurbished?

warranty- 3mo parts / 3mo labor with option of 1 or 2 year warranty for $64 and $90 respectively

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#175656 - 07/30/10 06:56 PM Re: New TV? [Re: ValmonUni]
HarryB Offline

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not bad but get the longest warranty you can.
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#175657 - 07/30/10 07:20 PM Re: New TV? [Re: HarryB]
m2h Offline
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I break warranties before I get the product home.
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#175658 - 07/30/10 08:17 PM Re: New TV? [Re: m2h]
ValmonUni Offline
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so this tv is harry b approved?
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#175660 - 07/31/10 07:07 AM Re: New TV? [Re: ValmonUni]
HarryB Offline

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yes, vizio tv's have ben geting great reviews, I used to be leary of refurbs but with a warranty who cares, at 399.00 that's a good price for a 1080p 37" tv get the waranty and it's even better.
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#175667 - 07/31/10 06:58 PM Re: New TV? [Re: HarryB]
ValmonUni Offline
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i ordered the tv today with the 2 year warranty... thanx for the help all... can't wait to set it up with the hd box, the blu ray player with pandora and netflix wireless streaming with my free hdmi cables
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#175668 - 08/01/10 07:06 AM Re: New TV? [Re: ValmonUni]
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We're all coming over to watch the game on your new set. On your computer make sure you take all your questionable files and put them in a folder called pr0n so we don't find them.

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#175669 - 08/01/10 07:19 AM Re: New TV? [Re: bitstorm]
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As I was saying -- static contrast ratio and decent framerate are important. multiples of 60 hz are good, because they don't do much interpolation, they just draw the pixels more often. Anything with 'smooth motion' or equivelant bullshit is guessing the in-between frames and makes for wicked motion blur (even if its smooth). Dynamic contrast pisses me off as the whole screen dims about a second after a visual change from light to dark, so its got better contrast only after a nauseating fade -- like someone is fucking with the contrast/brightness controls as you're watching. Just get a quality panel and have it display the damn source signal without any fucking around with it by the processor...
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#175692 - 08/04/10 06:27 PM Re: New TV? [Re: Frollard]
ValmonUni Offline
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thanx for the help everyone.. new tv set up and working well with the blu ray player. i still need to exchange my old cable box for an hd box
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#175694 - 08/04/10 07:10 PM Re: New TV? [Re: ValmonUni]
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Get a box with a HDMI output on it. the cable company i work for has HD boxes but most are only component, which is not true HD.
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#175702 - 08/05/10 06:07 AM Re: New TV? [Re: Nightowl]
HarryB Offline

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also get power protection, get a unit with coaxial protection cause last week a client that we did their home theater went away and came back to find his plasma hdmi ports not working, his projector hdmi not working, the pioneer elite receiver not working, and the hdmi splitter not working.
what happened was lightning struck a neighbors tree and somehow hit the underground cable station which went through his coax, into his cablebox, came out through the hdmi which fried the hdmi splitter which fried the plasma, receiver, and the projector. I just got the projector back, the tv and receiver should be back by monday or tuesday.

and don't get a cheap unit.

after that I rewired my own theater circuits with a surge protected circuit breaker and gfi receptacles.
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