So I picked up a
Lian-Li PC-Q08b.
Bigger in person for sure.
I'll tell you this. When you install the optical drive (makes sure you do it first!), make sure the IDE/Sata cable is working. I had to completely tear the system down the replace the IDE cable. Lesson learned.
And get the PSU extension
PE-01. The standard 140mm PSU does fit, but its so tight, makes for a lot of butt hurt. Adds 60mm.
Waiting for the twin to show up and two extenders.
Otherwise I'm very happy with everything. This is my first time with Lian-Li, and I'm very impressed.