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#178071 - 02/09/11 08:30 PM Buddy disabled his VGA adapter...any suggestions?
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Buddy disabled his VGA adapter...any suggestions?

He went to some snobby linux crew at a second hand comp store and they told him to disable his onboard vga video adapter so it wouldn't switch from the pci one.

so he did.

bet they were having a laugh

so anyone have a fix for this problem that every ref on the net seems to say
"you're hooped" about?

boots up, post beep, windows startup screen
then black

you can tell windows is actually up and running but it doesn't appear on either vid card.

is it possible to delete the video drivers in sys 32 from a linux bootup?

anyway
its pretty funny...

they shoulda just told him to pour water on it

isn't there an erd disk that boots windows but uses its own drivers so you can reach control panel or device manager?


Edited by Anartist (02/09/11 08:31 PM)
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#178074 - 02/09/11 08:47 PM Re: Buddy disabled his VGA adapter...any suggestions? [Re: Anartist]
bitstorm Offline
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Registered: 06/10/01
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Don't know how well these will work, but...

Several suggestions here:
http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic68901.html

This guy got his going by using Windows Narrator:
http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-xp/disabled-vga-adaptor-blank-screen/145290.html

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#178075 - 02/09/11 08:49 PM Re: Buddy disabled his VGA adapter...any suggestions? [Re: Anartist]
Compactman Offline
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Registered: 06/07/01
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heheh

The second hand stores are always trying to do everything but actually make money. The owner of one in my neighborhood comes in bragging about 20 somethings coming in with computers that have tons of nudes on them all the time. "Oh dude I have a huge hard drive full of loose broads from the area".

ugh.. The other one shot some guy that stole a cable or something from his store. The courts will deal with them.

I mean suuure you might come across something interesting by accident on a computer but you never save that shit. It's not yours! Bragging to other people is just asking for a lawsuit. This will ultimately be his undoing.

I got another one 30 minutes away that's always trying to drag my name through the mud for his shortcomings. Ohhh yeah were all having a hard time from the economy he says. Even such and such 30 minutes away from us are going down, and those guys have been around for 10 years.... umm we're doing just fine Bob.. not that I'd even say Hello to you if I saw you in the street. I may fail to brake with my head in the clouds thinking about all those ripoff jobs I have had to go in and fix after the CS wised up left you. Fucking hacks.


Edited by Compactman (02/09/11 08:58 PM)
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#178080 - 02/09/11 09:24 PM Re: Buddy disabled his VGA adapter...any suggestions? [Re: Compactman]
HarryB Offline
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Quote:
"Oh dude I have a huge hard drive full of loose broads from the area".

you should entertain us with your findings.*L*
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#178083 - 02/09/11 09:34 PM Re: Buddy disabled his VGA adapter...any suggestions? [Re: HarryB]
bitstorm Offline
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That would be awesome, lol

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#178084 - 02/09/11 11:00 PM Re: Buddy disabled his VGA adapter...any suggestions? [Re: Anartist]
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Onboard VGA adapters usually are disabled by a jumper on motherboard or an option in BIOS. Did he just disable it in Device Manager?

What are the computer specs? Is this Windows 7? Do a repair install. Won't loose any data.
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#178086 - 02/09/11 11:09 PM Re: Buddy disabled his VGA adapter...any suggestions? [Re: Anartist]
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yup. From device manager, so bios tweaks won't bring it back.

I found one explanation that basically walked through every tab-tab-tab-downarrow
running blind to find it.

I remember doing this to a machine back in the NT days
I seem to recall after 3 days it was easier to blow it away

why you can't get a basic winPE instead of the rescue console to fix things, i don't know

and why it doesn't boot to safe mode either is ludicrous design

the geek was one of those nix snobs who told my buddy to do that on purpose for a laugh.

Unfortunately for him, my friend is a bit of a psycho.
That's why I thought I'd give it a shot.

LOL


Edited by Anartist (02/09/11 11:10 PM)
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#178092 - 02/10/11 07:23 AM Re: Buddy disabled his VGA adapter...any suggestions? [Re: Anartist]
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Quote:
the geek was one of those nix snobs who told my buddy to do that on purpose for a laugh.
That may not be the case. I'd say it's more likely a misunderstanding between the geek and your friend. Maybe he was suggesting disabling the adapter in BIOS, which makes sense to me. This is the first time I've ever seen this: my BIOS had to be manually switched to use the PCI card over the onboard one before I could see anything on the screen. Previously it seemed that it would simply pick whichever one was attached to a monitor.
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#178094 - 02/10/11 02:11 PM Re: Buddy disabled his VGA adapter...any suggestions? [Re: Anartist]
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SAFE MODE .. make changes, reboot.
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#178096 - 02/10/11 02:16 PM Re: Buddy disabled his VGA adapter...any suggestions? [Re: Mr_Blog]
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Originally Posted By: Mr_Blog
Quote:
the geek was one of those nix snobs who told my buddy to do that on purpose for a laugh.
That may not be the case. I'd say it's more likely a misunderstanding between the geek and your friend. Maybe he was suggesting disabling the adapter in BIOS, which makes sense to me. This is the first time I've ever seen this: my BIOS had to be manually switched to use the PCI card over the onboard one before I could see anything on the screen. Previously it seemed that it would simply pick whichever one was attached to a monitor.


This is why I usually hook up DVI, VGA, and onboard to a monitor (i gots lots of inputs). My systems are finicky, so by doing this I can find out which one is the default for Windows, and make changes appropriately. Sometimes disabling onboard in the BIOS gives a blank screen, till the drivers are sorted in Windows.
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#178099 - 02/10/11 08:01 PM Re: Buddy disabled his VGA adapter...any suggestions? [Re: m2h]
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Originally Posted By: m2h
SAFE MODE .. make changes, reboot.


He gets nothing on the monitor once Windows is running. I would think Safe Mode would work, but sounds like that has been tried.
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#178113 - 02/11/11 08:32 AM Re: Buddy disabled his VGA adapter...any suggestions? [Re: MacGyver]
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Believe me
I have an MCSE/A+/CCNA and have taught A+

It's just one of those things that never got patched in XP because most plug n play eliminated the need for disabling adapters.

Yeah, the geek actually explained how to do it in device manager, so he did do it on purpose. I met the geek before.

One of those dicks that acts like they know more than anyone.
I asked him where something was in a mac preferences once, just to test his knowledge(he was selling the mac to another friend, I suggested he buy it, it was a good deal). Not so bright, more like a B student. Terrible customer skills.

If he had done it in bios I wouldn't have had any prob.

No, this bugger did it on purpose.

Like the guy who told another friend 10 years ago to put his keyboard in the dishwasher.
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#178114 - 02/11/11 11:41 AM Re: Buddy disabled his VGA adapter...any suggestions? [Re: Anartist]
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found this.

Quote:
First off let me begin by saying I build and repair computers for a living so this is good advide comming from a valid source. Let me explain what started it all to shed some light on things. The Evil Kyro 64mb card was made cheaper than most due to the fact they did not research or make drivers that were ever glitch free. Every driver you find for this card will have a glitch some where. I have found only one out of the hundreds that does decent but it will not work correctly In 1024x768 mode. all others work excellent. I will repost later as to where to find that driver. Your current problem is that you have told windows to ignore that video card itself. So as soon as windows takes over it cuts your card out of the picture. Does your bios screen still show on initial 5-15 seconds of boot? If so this could be of use. If the mother board has onboard video you will need to use it to fix this problem.. If it does not you will need a different card. I assume youre using the agp slot seeing as the was no pci version of this card made. So you will need a pci card. If you dont have one you cand find them really cheap under 15 bucks. you wont need anything fancy as this is just to fix a problem. Stick it in let window install it. Go back to where you disabled video, re-enable it put your other card in and your good to go. Same if you have onboard video, you just wont need to use another card. If you cannot do any of the above theres always the format and reinstall window option. If youve got files you want to keep slave the drive and transffer them to a working computer first..I hope this is of some help..


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Now, if you are lucky and have an on-board display adapter as well as the
plug in type, simply enable the onboard item in BIOS and connect the display
to this onboard adapter interface, then reboot to XP and fix your mess.

If not, then borrow another AGP card from a mate and boot up with this:
Windows will detect the new AGP adapter, install the drivers and continue to
boot normally.

Then remove the old 'disabled' adapter and power off.

Replace the borrowed AGP card with your and boot up.

Again, Windows will detect the new AGP adapter, install the drivers and
continue to boot normally.



last option I would try is pushing out a remote install of vnc and remote into it and hopefully you'll get a visual and be able to enable it.

I have vnc on all my machines just in case a graphic card goes and for remote management.

another option is if you have another pc, on that you can go to computer management, then connect to the messed up pc and reenable it that way.
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#178257 - 02/15/11 10:51 PM Re: Buddy disabled his VGA adapter...any suggestions? [Re: Anartist]
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He's gonna take it to the dude who set him up
I don't wanna transfer his icky pron

Sometimes you can just tell
they don't really want you to help them find their stuff

LOL
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