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#179568 - 08/27/11 12:32 PM Computer Freezing
ValmonUni Offline
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Lately (last two days) my computer has been freezing like crazy.

At first i the screen will freeze and i still have sound and can move my mouse, but can't click on anything. Then the sound gets garbled and finally locks up completely about 5 seconds later.

No viruses or malware
Ran memtest but computer froze at 95% (0 errors up to that point)
Windows is updated, video card updated

any suggestions would be appreciated

tia =)
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#179569 - 08/27/11 01:05 PM Re: Computer Freezing [Re: ValmonUni]
Mr_Blog Offline
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boot into BIOS and watch the temperatures/fan speeds for a while. That's the only suggestion I have.
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#179571 - 08/27/11 01:13 PM Re: Computer Freezing [Re: ValmonUni]
ValmonUni Offline
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cpuid says my temps are good. would the bios give dramatically diffrent results?
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#179572 - 08/27/11 01:14 PM Re: Computer Freezing [Re: ValmonUni]
Doorslammer Offline

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possible run away process
check task manager or logs
kill process & remove what ever the process belongs to

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#179573 - 08/27/11 01:34 PM Re: Computer Freezing [Re: ValmonUni]
HarryB Offline

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if it froze during memtest, may be a faulty mem stick. the freezing could be due to a instruction being writted to the bad location and windows freezes trying to read it.

otherwise, place it next to a fireplace or turn up the heat to warm it up.*L*
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#179581 - 08/27/11 11:41 PM Re: Computer Freezing [Re: ValmonUni]
m2h Offline
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Registered: 06/12/01
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Put a sweater on it.
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#179584 - 08/28/11 10:48 AM Re: Computer Freezing [Re: ValmonUni]
ValmonUni Offline
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Registered: 09/24/01
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ran memtest86

although it says 1 full pass is enough to find all but the most obsscure error i ran two. No errors... aparently everything is fine. now i'm really at a loss. damn computer locks up at least 5 times a day. borderline unusable.

could it be the hard drive?
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#179585 - 08/28/11 11:06 AM Re: Computer Freezing [Re: ValmonUni]
HarryB Offline

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what's the cpu temp?
are you overclocking it?
have you updated the mobo bios?
have you updated the drivers?
what to you have connected to the pc?
have you ran performance monitor to record disk, cpu, pagefile, and memory performance?
oh, have you ran a harddrive test?
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#179586 - 08/28/11 11:28 AM Re: Computer Freezing [Re: HarryB]
ValmonUni Offline
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Loc: Queens, NYC
Originally Posted By: HarryB
what's the cpu temp?
are you overclocking it?
have you updated the mobo bios?
have you updated the drivers?
what to you have connected to the pc?
have you ran performance monitor to record disk, cpu, pagefile, and memory performance?
oh, have you ran a harddrive test?


I've got a Phenom II x4 965
- Will start around 35c, while using computer might get to around 40-44c and during gaming (sc2 or tf2) 50c. My temps use to be a little higher but i installed new case fans to bring it down. Wasn't an issue even before the new case fans but didn't like the idea of cpu getting to 50c even if it was while gaming

No overclocking

Haven't updated the mobo bios

All drivers are up to date

Nothing unusual connected to computer: keyboard, mouse, router/modem, speakers. Not even a printer.

only performance monitor i ran was the windows experience thing and memtest86.

How do i run a hard drive test? (sorry for my ignorance)
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#179587 - 08/28/11 11:39 AM Re: Computer Freezing [Re: ValmonUni]
HarryB Offline

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go to the drive manuf. site and they should have utils to test.
seagate has seatools, wd has a tool.
if you have a hirens or ubcd4win boot disk they have many utils to test the components.

was it always freezing up or just recently?
if just recently backtrack and undo from recent o older changes one at a time until it's stable.

if it's always froze, try updating the bios. seen old bios cause instability.
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#179588 - 08/28/11 11:40 AM Re: Computer Freezing [Re: ValmonUni]
ValmonUni Offline
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Loc: Queens, NYC
hasn't always froze it's a recent thing. just the other day i said to myself that my computer hasn't froze in months and months. i honestly started to believe that i was causing the lock-ups just from thinking about it.
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#179589 - 08/28/11 11:47 AM Re: Computer Freezing [Re: ValmonUni]
HarryB Offline

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Registered: 06/10/01
Posts: 18835
Loc: $$
what have you installed or updated recently?
the windows update will tend to update drivers with microsoft versions, check all your drivers to see if they are from the manuf.

I had a server that was using the microsoft raid controller drivers and the server wasn't stable until I loaded the intel raid drivers. and also updated the bios. since then hav't had one issue.
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#179590 - 08/28/11 12:03 PM Re: Computer Freezing [Re: ValmonUni]
ValmonUni Offline
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Registered: 09/24/01
Posts: 6980
Loc: Queens, NYC
running western digital data lifeguard diagnostics. got that from their website.
also figured out how to update bios.

as soon as the diagnostics are done i'll take a look at the drivers.
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#179591 - 08/29/11 11:56 AM Re: Computer Freezing [Re: ValmonUni]
ValmonUni Offline
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Registered: 09/24/01
Posts: 6980
Loc: Queens, NYC
so i run the western digital diagnostic and after an hour and 10 minutes it says i have some bad sectors and would i like to try to repair. before i can hit repair the power goes out and i just got it back on. baaaaaah. running diagnostic again while using my laptop. hope the power stays on for good now. it's been pretty bad here on long island.
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#179592 - 08/29/11 01:45 PM Re: Computer Freezing [Re: ValmonUni]
HarryB Offline

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Registered: 06/10/01
Posts: 18835
Loc: $$
not bad here, lots of clients did not follow my instructions to shut down all pc's, servers, printers and unplug them including switches,routers, wifi ap's.
and guess what?
we're busy as a faggot in boystown. rofl rofl rofl
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#179635 - 09/05/11 07:11 AM Re: Computer Freezing [Re: ValmonUni]
Doorslammer Offline

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Registered: 06/03/01
Posts: 6193
Loc: South Jersey
Originally Posted By: ValmonUni
so i run the western digital diagnostic and after an hour and 10 minutes it says i have some bad sectors and would i like to try to repair. before i can hit repair the power goes out and i just got it back on. baaaaaah. running diagnostic again while using my laptop. hope the power stays on for good now. it's been pretty bad here on long island.

well I'd say start looking for a new drive . I never trust a drive that has developed bad sectors ! sooner or later it will happen again .
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#179823 - 10/12/11 08:25 PM Re: Computer Freezing [Re: ValmonUni]
Anartist Offline
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Registered: 09/20/01
Posts: 2804
Loc: The Frozen North
1 ram could be unseated
rare, but ram could be damaged
power supply could be damaged because of power spikes, if you didn't have it plugged in to a surge protector
old power supplies will sometimes spike too, and even damage ram

check for odd processes? CCleaner is good.

sometimes doing a full patch application helps, I use ctupdate to make a update service pack patch dvd, in the process of updating sometimes things get fixed that the windows update dl doesn't fix.

my suggestion is to disable all unnecesary startup processes, ccleaner can help if you don't know how to do it.
then apply ctupdate for your OS

it sounds like software if it isn't your power supply.
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#179825 - 10/12/11 08:36 PM Re: Computer Freezing [Re: ValmonUni]
bitstorm Offline
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Registered: 06/10/01
Posts: 4378
I just had issues with my Asus laptop freezing... sometimes it would lock up on boot, sometimes it would be fine for hours then just weirdly lock up. Made no sense because the laptop is only a couple years old.

Turns out it was the Creative drivers I installed and totally forgot about... removing them did the trick.

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