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#2934 - 08/27/01 03:36 AM Lynda Learning Dreamwaever 4
Fitzy Offline
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Anybody want to learn Dreamweaver 4. Its at DS place

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#2935 - 08/27/01 10:22 PM Re: Lynda Learning Dreamwaever 4 [Re: Fitzy]
Compactman Offline
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lol is the program really that hard to understand?

I mean if you know html it's a piece of cake already...

if ya don't well best learn that before getting a WYSIWYG editor.

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#2936 - 08/28/01 04:06 AM Re: Lynda Learning Dreamwaever 4 [Re: Compactman]
Camelot Offline
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imo handcoding is still the way to go... dw makes such a mess of the coding + it's hard to get the exact result u want
a good code editor can be just as efficient as a wysiswyg editor...
-Cam

P.S Forget to mention, that is a great book. Thanks for sharing m8

Edited by Camelot on 08/28/01 07:07 AM.


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#2937 - 08/28/01 08:48 PM Re: Lynda Learning Dreamwaever 4 [Re: Camelot]
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If I were to make a simple page with just images, tables, and simple javascript, I wouldn't consider for a second about hand coding. That would be a huge waste of time, and there's no way Dreamweaver can make a mess of something as basic as that. I could understand if you were doing more complex scripting.

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#2938 - 08/29/01 09:22 AM Re: Lynda Learning Dreamwaever 4 [Re: Mr_Blog]
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i use dreamweaver -- it usually does what i want it to

if it doesnt, then i just hand code that part of it -- that way i get what i want, and dont have to waste my time on the easy junk like tables -- imo it's much faster to click insert > table ;)

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#2939 - 08/29/01 10:46 AM Re: Lynda Learning Dreamwaever 4 [Re: ROT]
Camelot Offline
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I use edit+ which pasts in the general tables code, then I have to duplicate lines of code + add the attributes I want... It makes it a bit ezier + I feel 100% in control
used dw 4 about 1 year, and it was great.. till I started using php and mysql and more advanced stuff, then things went downhill. + the css support in dw was a bit dissapointing, quite a few commands not avaliable...
-Cam


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#2940 - 08/29/01 02:46 PM Re: Lynda Learning Dreamwaever 4 [Re: Camelot]
Compactman Offline
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Yeah cam the only thing I really noticed about Dreamweaver is that it told me there was errors in my code when it didn't understand something.

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#2941 - 09/23/01 04:44 PM Re: Lynda Learning Dreamwaever 4 [Re: Compactman]
Anartist Offline
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Dreamweaver really shines with its templates.
on a large site of say 50 pages, having 10 templates is so time efficient. It also does great things for your site maintenance.
Secondly, if you make your nav interfaces with Fireworks the "paste fireworks html" thing just smokes.
I often have two or more blocks on my templates that are fire works sections.
Its pretty efficient for toggling back and forth between layout and code too.
Up until 3 months ago I was really into GoLive, but I recently had a site that had 6200 files in the web root when I inherited it. Final tally after two weeks of cleanup was less than 1200 files.
The two things I dig about Golive are the outline view with its blocks and code insert scrolldowns, and the great in-out links navigator. If they would put the in out links navigator into dreamweaver I would never install golive on a machine again.

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